The Fate Of Confederate Monuments, After Charleston
National Council on Public History
Panel Discussion
March 19, 2016
Selected tweets, in mostly chronological order:
Final session of #ncph2016! #s69, After Charleston: Exploring the Fate of Confederate Monuments in America
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/katie_stringer/status/711273259073970177
So many familiar faces (& #twitterstorians) in #s69, After Charleston: Exploring the Fate of Confed Monuments in US. Good to see! #ncph2016
— Will Stoutamire (@wstoutamire) March 19, 2016
@EvanRSpencer #ncph2016 #s69 pic.twitter.com/vsgbwTfOCx
— Ashley B. Claybrooks (@NicNat_artifakz) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/RealConductor_X/status/712020524495405056
<b>The room during "After Charleston: Exploring the Fate of Confederate Monuments in America":</b>
Luskey: could also add counter-monuments, such as the 2008 Dred & Harriet Scott monument in Frederick #ncph2016 #s69 pic.twitter.com/wsW1kik25c
— Auni Gelles (@aunigelles) March 19, 2016
@AshleyWLuskey begins by outlining the complex, emotional, and politically charged questions raised by Confederate symbols #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
Thomas Brown draws distinction between quasi-religious tenants of the Lost Cause and newer, consumer based Confederate memory #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
Thomas Brown: not surprised Confederate flag came down at SC State House. Flag has been “on defense” since at least 1980s. #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
Brown: Haley addressed the flag bc it was politically easier to target than gun control #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Brown: Lost Cause mobilized force of religion, class, & whiteness to reinforce Southern power structures/Confederate icons. #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/katie_stringer/status/711276391875153921
Brown: Confederate flag was obvious avenue through which SC governor could take action after Charleston #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
Brown: SC gov Haley called for Confederate flag to be taken down partly b/c it obscures discussion on guns & violence. #NCPH216 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
Brown would be surprised to see civil monuments to soldiers actually come down #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Brown: Nathan Bedford Forrest extra controversial bc of connection to KKK #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
#s69 not first session w race theme w an all-white panel, this time talking abt Confederate monuments. Just saying… #ncph2016
— Will Stoutamire (@wstoutamire) March 19, 2016
@wstoutamire 🐸☕️
— Ashley B. Claybrooks (@NicNat_artifakz) March 19, 2016
@wstoutamire I was about to ask if this was an all white panel. Who allowed for that? Organizers didn't question? Sounds "exclusive" to me
— The Descendant (@Their_Child) March 21, 2016
@Their_Child No idea, but that was ultimately my biggest issue. Panel didn't reflect a broad enough range of views on a very complex issue
— Will Stoutamire (@wstoutamire) March 21, 2016
@wstoutamire sounds like it was almost as bad as this panel. Was there time for questions? pic.twitter.com/Tfz7jG43Af
— The Descendant (@Their_Child) March 21, 2016
@Their_Child There was, but it was very limited. Some expressed concern re: language (ex: "vandalism" by BLM), others asked for more (1/2)
— Will Stoutamire (@wstoutamire) March 21, 2016
@Their_Child internat'l context (ex: post-apartheid SA, post-communist E. Eur.), others that waysides work only in theory (most don't read)
— Will Stoutamire (@wstoutamire) March 21, 2016
Brown: Discussion of removing Confed monuments esp right after shooting was insensitive & avoided real issue of gun control #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Brown: Removing Confed monuments requires expending political capital that could be used elsewhere #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Brown claims that many monuments are dormant. If so, they are like volcanoes, always in the back of some people's minds #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
Brown: it costs political capital to take down confederate monuments. Worth the cost in some contexts. #s69 #ncph2016
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 19, 2016
Brown: Suggested removal of monuments seems to be centered around Confederate generals & leaders, not women & common soldiers #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
Brown: Expertise needed for removal decision is expertise on the community, not monuments generally. (But which communities?) #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
T Brown: the defining feature of Civil War monuments (N & S) is that they were local initiatives. Keep future decisions local #ncph2016 #s69
— Auni Gelles (@aunigelles) March 19, 2016
Koski is the "flag guy," so he'll talk about the battle flag #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Noting that we’re focusing a lot on the confederate flag as opposed to Confederate monuments so far. #s69 #NCPH2016
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
Brown: Removal of monuments should be a community-by-community decision #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Disagree w Coski that Confederate flag can be a symbol of rebellion w/o Civil war context or sympathy for Confederacy. #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
@NickSacco55 & the fact that some (majority?) will always see confederacy when they see that flag matters more. #ncph2016
— kristen baldwin deathridge (@k10death) March 19, 2016
@NickSacco55 seriously?!? I really would not have handled that panel well.
— The Descendant (@Their_Child) March 20, 2016
@NickSacco55 IMO he removes context too much. Even flag at Ole Miss fb was meant to send racial msg, not just "support" team #ncph2016 #s69
— Will Stoutamire (@wstoutamire) March 19, 2016
Coski: Dangerous trap to believe that what a symbol means to us is what it means #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
John Coski: everyone seems to think their perception of the Confederate flag is universal. Reality: many coexisting meanings. #ncph2016 #s69
— Auni Gelles (@aunigelles) March 19, 2016
Confederate flag has always been a symbol of white supremacy and racial oppression – can't separate the symbol from context #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
This. There's a disparity in political power between those who defend the flag & those who oppose it #s69 #ncph2016 https://t.co/CVnVw3DTnp
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
@AshleyWLuskey on how removal of Confederate monuments will not eradicate deep racial issues #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
Of course removing monuments won't solve racism, but is that really the point? #s69 #ncph2016
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 19, 2016
@velostarr damn I hate that I missed this convo. Was someone actually asserting that removing monuments ends racism?
— The Descendant (@Their_Child) March 20, 2016
@Their_Child more like taking them down won't end racism as an argument to leave them up (with plaques or counter monuments).
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 20, 2016
@Their_Child my response was basically that saying they won't end racism is not a reason to keep them. They symbolize racism.
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 20, 2016
So the argument for letting the monuments stand is that tearing them down doesn't solve racism? WTF #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
@abbygateau right?!? No one thing is going to eradicate racism.
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 19, 2016
@michelle031580 If you can't solve easily, why bother trying at all?!
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
When has anyone argued that removing a flag or tearing down a monument solves white supremacy?? #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
So important. Sometimes both sides are not equally legitimate. #s69 #ncph2016 https://t.co/U1tf3kpraa
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 19, 2016
Luskey argues that keeping Confederate monuments in place can lead to “reclaiming” of meaning and furthering of dialogue. #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
Dr. Luskey: The reasons to remove or keep confederate monuments is different than the reasons they were erected #ncph2016 #s69
— Nicole (@amo_la_storio) March 19, 2016
@AshleyWLuskey: Removal/relocation of monuments will not eradicate deeply embedded racial inequality & power structures. #ncph2016 #s69
— Auni Gelles (@aunigelles) March 19, 2016
Not buying the “removing monuments doesn’t end racism” argument. Symbols matter – why else do they exist? #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
@NickSacco55 Passing the 14th Amendment didn't end racism, but it was still worth doing.
— Immigrants Civil War (@ImmigrantCW150) March 20, 2016
AH. You know who ELSE notices Confed memorials? PEOPLE OF COLOR. But oh no, we must protect the white ppl's feelings! #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/Crutch4/status/711285123845656576
Precedence for reinterpretation. Big question here: can interpretation and contextualization be enough? #ToughStuff #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
Let's just put up waysides, bc that will def have the same level of impact as a GIANT MONUMENT TO WHITE SUPREMACY #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
I don't think monuments to problematic should always be removed, but I have trouble buying these arguments to keep them #s69 #ncph2016
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 19, 2016
#ncph2016 #s69
Make people read more to figure out why celebrating rebel slaveowners is a bad thing. Sounds totally worth doing.— Dr. Jane Davis⁷ #BlackLivesMatter (@jdavis025) March 19, 2016
Luskey: instead of removing Confed. monuments, add context which has has been sorely missing through waysides. Still in place #ncph2016 #s69
— Auni Gelles (@aunigelles) March 19, 2016
Hmm idea of tacking on a wayside to mediate the confederate monuments? A historian's voice is still not everyone's voice #ncph2016 #s69
— Nicole (@amo_la_storio) March 19, 2016
I would like to read a comprehensive study on how people commune w historical markers. Are they really that effective? #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
@aunigelles Waysides may make public historians feel better, but it's not clear they address the issues at hand. #ncph2016 #s69
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/SarahCalise/status/711286606863454210
I do like the idea of counter-monuments better that waysides. Seems more productive and thought provoking. #ncph2016 #s69
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 19, 2016
Counter monuments can so easily make it seem that both sides of the story are equally valid. #s69 #ncph2016
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/artstuffmatters/status/711566126975729664
http://twitter.com/life_of_sources/status/711286810194939904
Counter monuments are a better solution, but should discuss why these monuments have to exist as counter & not on their own #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Why do we accept that public historians KNOW what should be done with Confederate monuments? Should be assisting public. #ncph2016 #s69
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 19, 2016
Would like to echo @velostarr’s point that placing Confederate monument debate within an international context is necessary. #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
Confederate monuments session will have about 3 minutes for audience comment. #ncph2016 #s69
— Devin V. Hunter (@dvhunter) March 19, 2016
In all seriousness NCPH should have a mini-con or three about this.
— Devin V. Hunter (@dvhunter) March 19, 2016
@dvhunter Is this panel as crazy as the tweets make it seem?
— Kenneth Owen (@kenneth_owen) March 19, 2016
Could we use apartheid-era monuments in SA as comparative? #ncph2016 #s69 https://t.co/o1dYuu1TIe
— Victoria Jackson (@HistoryRunner) March 19, 2016
Not sure I buy power of place argument for leaving confed mons. Landscapes are dynamic, can change to reflect current values. #s69
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/Crutch4/status/711288335021375488
http://twitter.com/Crutch4/status/711288072206471168
http://twitter.com/Crutch4/status/711289138771849217
http://twitter.com/Crutch4/status/711289320100012034
http://twitter.com/Crutch4/status/711289548127531013
@Crutch4 there is no rational reason for you to have to wait #s69
— Dr. Jane Davis⁷ #BlackLivesMatter (@jdavis025) March 19, 2016
@Crutch4 the lack of concern for the negative impact these monuments have on many people is . . . concerning. If sadly typical.
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/life_of_sources/status/711290103684075526
@life_of_sources @Crutch4 yes! Absolutely!! No one discussing how harmful and hurtful these symbols are!! Coddling white supremacy. #s69
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 19, 2016
@Crutch4 completely disappointing that this perspective was completely absent from panel.
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 20, 2016
How about monuments as vaccines for racism? Kill the live virus & inoculate from the disease. It'll take more than a plaque, though. #s69
— Dr. Jane Davis⁷ #BlackLivesMatter (@jdavis025) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/lwalterscooper/status/711288403577446400
@lwalterscooper That's fair. It's an interesting convo on perspective as frustrating as it is. I am interested in hearing the discussion.
— Priya Chhaya (@priyastoric) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/Behristotle/status/711310620424065025
http://twitter.com/ceceliamoore/status/711289047285628929
@ceceliamoore do you mean it isn't representative of what is actually being said? Meanings can get lost… #s69 #ncph2016
— kristen baldwin deathridge (@k10death) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/ceceliamoore/status/711290602168705024
Titus: Removal should be on the table in cities, but maybe not at Gettysburg where it's actually part of a commem landscape #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
#s69 #ncph2016 while I definitely want to contextualize the existing monuments, not sure how to do that in a way that actually confronts
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
#s69 #ncph2016 (contd) rather than giving them an added level of legitimacy. New monuments is a good idea, but again, it grants legitimacy
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
#s69 #ncph2016 if we could get people to understand the context of creation of these monuments, we would. How best to do that?? No clue
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
#s69 #ncph2016 sad to miss this session. My historical area of expertise and my professional expertise colliding hard.
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
#s69 #ncph2016 seems to me that the public that's ardently opposed to any dismantling would be totally unreceptive to our contextual lessons
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
@EvanRSpencer yes! I think this is an important point!!
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 19, 2016
#s69 #ncph2016 same folks deny the CW had to do w slavery bc they've never seen it proved to them. *shows secession docs* *still adamant*
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
?s we need to ask about all historical iconography: is this icon worthy of a place of honor? Does it represent our values? #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
Titus is a civil rights scholar, has a different perspective #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Am I insane that the very term counter monument is exclusive and highly problematic? #s69 #ncph2016
— Erin Bernard (@erincbernard) March 19, 2016
Titus shows SC monument at Gettysburg & points out how racially/politically charged the lang is #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
I hate to say it, but these kinds of discussions place public historians on the sidelines. Communities passing us by. #NCPH2016 #s69
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 19, 2016
Jill Titus: Confed monuments at @GettysburgNMP erected during centennial (1960s) are an opportunity to link CW & Civil Rights #ncph2016 #s69
— Auni Gelles (@aunigelles) March 19, 2016
Really wish we had more time to hear from Titus & discuss–20min left in session #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Agree that context is important. Think the real rub is with monuments in civic spaces. #NCPH2016 #s69 https://t.co/W3MEMacuV2
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
K. That is what I got too! but wanted to be sure I was reading it right & not assume #s69 #ncph2016 https://t.co/TDziFVXU3u
— kristen baldwin deathridge (@k10death) March 19, 2016
Dr. Titus: confederate commemoratives at Gettysburg are so far not contested/ SC memorial is a way to remember state's rights #ncph2016 #s69
— Nicole (@amo_la_storio) March 19, 2016
Titus shows FL monument, which has a Cold War twist focusing on "Americans" bc segregation looked bad int'lly #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/elizabethcatte/status/711291246757728257
We should be reflecting on the possibilities and limits of Public History in response to these debates. #NCPH2016 #s69
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 19, 2016
Titus: Stories told by the monuments are impossible for visitors to grasp without interpretation #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Thanks everyone for this twitter convo about #s69. Making me question thoughts I had re: what should be done. #idonthavetheanswers #ncph2016
— Priya Chhaya (@priyastoric) March 19, 2016
Titus is pointing out the connections between the civil rights struggle & monuments about the civil war. THANK YOU. #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/ceceliamoore/status/711292138525487104
#NCPH2016 #s69 1/2 visitors can't easily read below the face of monuments to understand what all is going on.
— Dr. Jane Davis⁷ #BlackLivesMatter (@jdavis025) March 19, 2016
2/2 #NCPH2016 #s69 But these are the same visitors who should be able to get something from more text.
— Dr. Jane Davis⁷ #BlackLivesMatter (@jdavis025) March 19, 2016
$$ is not the real problem. If we don't have $ to remove monuments, we don't have $ for new monuments. #s69 #ncph2016
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 19, 2016
Titus: Confed monuments are not artifacts of history, but artifacts of interpretation #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Titus: are monuments history? Yes. Great question. #s69 #ncph2016
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 19, 2016
Enjoying the open, disagreeing dialogue at #s69 at #ncph2016 about confed monuments. Important to present accessible history.
— Bethany Noel Nagle (@wagleface) March 19, 2016
Yes! "Understanding of history changes over time." #s69 #ncph2016
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 19, 2016
Titus quoting Phelps: Changing of the memorial landscape important part of revising history. Public historiography? #ncph2016 #s69
— Rebekah Oakes (@RebekahOakes01) March 19, 2016
I agree, I now have more questions to consider and #idonthavetheanswers #ncph2016 #s69 https://t.co/FnkA3F7DU5
— Nicole (@amo_la_storio) March 19, 2016
Who are the public historians that are working with communities on these issues? Enough talk already. #ShowDontTell #s69 #ncph2016
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 19, 2016
Does removing monuments to a lie actually "change history" or is it our duty to represent the most accurate picture we have. #ncph2016 #s69
— Dr. Jane Davis⁷ #BlackLivesMatter (@jdavis025) March 19, 2016
Titus: What do we do with 3D representations of discredited historical interpretation? #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Titus: if we think of the pub sphere as pub historiography then what should we do with 3D legacies of interpretation? #s69 #ncph2016
— Caitlin Starr Cohn (@velostarr) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/jhowardhistory/status/711292903809753089
Audience has been unleashed! #s69 #ncph2016
— Devin V. Hunter (@dvhunter) March 19, 2016
The issue here is that Confed memorials are rarely actually about the Civil War #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/jhowardhistory/status/711293276301746177
where is the task force from within the field and the public to deal with the issue of memorialization? #s69 #ncph2016
— Erin Bernard (@erincbernard) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/AMST_Anni/status/711541731381157889
@AMST_Anni yes! This issue-exclusive and often violent public space- came up in both #s69 and the #herstory session. #ncph2016 continues
— Erin Bernard (@erincbernard) March 20, 2016
An article worth reading in this discussion. Quoting @slavedwelling https://t.co/DwGyZymnQ8 #ncph2016 #s69
— Priya Chhaya (@priyastoric) March 19, 2016
Article by #s69 speaker Luskey #ncph2016 https://t.co/BJJpakUPr1
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
.@AshleyWLuskey: the size/scale of waysides will never outweigh massive equestrian statues. No guarantee they will be read. #ncph2016 #s69
— Auni Gelles (@aunigelles) March 19, 2016
This is also important. Is it possible to match the level of permanence with our interpretation? #s69 #ncph2016 https://t.co/tVUR8OzrUM
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/elizabethcatte/status/711294072628113409
http://twitter.com/elizabethcatte/status/711698333769867265
@elizabethcatte Why weren't you on this panel?
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/elizabethcatte/status/711295250418024448
http://twitter.com/artstuffmatters/status/711570949406105601
http://twitter.com/wstoutamire/status/711295707332870148
http://twitter.com/JumpinPunkin/status/711314459575373824
Oh, I should be there. https://t.co/rqlAmXB8SQ
— Brian Joyner (@BetterGuyX) March 19, 2016
Sitting at Walmart parking lot in Columbia, SC, pondering whether it's possible to reinterpret monuments to white supremacy. #s69 #ncph2016
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
We’ve got a strange comment from an audience member about Union soldiers raping women in the South. Someone is uncomfortable #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
If you’re worried about the removal of Confederate icongraphy, change the subject and call Lincoln a racist. #winningargument #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
BAD THINGS HAPPEN WHY ARE WE HATING ON CONFEDERATES #s69 #ncph2016 #pointmissed https://t.co/CGjWsZqhYl
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/Crutch4/status/711294594948980736
http://twitter.com/life_of_sources/status/711294535918342144
http://twitter.com/life_of_sources/status/711295173167345664
Suggest looking at the work of Sabine Marschall on the landscape of monuments in South Africa #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/katie_stringer/status/711295534372270080
That Reconstruction failed. #s69 @ncph2016 https://t.co/Ihf6rLXNEb
— cathystanton (@cathystanton) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/PubHistPhD/status/711309273544974336
@katie_stringer @aleiabrown @craigswilder We've been tearing monuments down since 1776! 🔥Let's go! 🔥 pic.twitter.com/8qX7lXStUk
— The Descendant (@Their_Child) March 20, 2016
@katie_stringer I too thought about Nazi symbols. You can't erase history, but stop honoring shameful acts, events & the people involved.
— nuns with guns (@mdfkb) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/life_of_sources/status/711295677364641792
Kosik says it's very odd that the losers were allowed to venerate and celebrate their history, impact on culture #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
#ncph2016 #s69 Q:how is this dissimilar to leaving Nazi statues upright? A:in America the losers wrote the history rather than the winners
— Dr. Jane Davis⁷ #BlackLivesMatter (@jdavis025) March 19, 2016
@jdavis025: They were also allowed to selectively preserve history (Dunbar Rowland) #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Sounds like #ncph2016 is ending with a bang at #s69. Or maybe just on Twitter. Who knows
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
Aud comment: calling them counter monuments legitimizes the history of white supremacy #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Excellent comment to end with re: language public historians are using in this debate. #s69 #ncph2016
— Devin V. Hunter (@dvhunter) March 19, 2016
TItus says a counter monument is a monument that challenges the idea of the authority of a monument at all #ncph2016 #s69
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
Btw, we should absolutely be saying it's not appropriate to venerate the confederacy. Mistake we haven't done it sooner. #s69 #ncph2016
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 19, 2016
#ncph2016 #s69 right. I gotta get to the airport and calm down. Although I do have some ideas how to cheaply remove some monuments.
— Dr. Jane Davis⁷ #BlackLivesMatter (@jdavis025) March 19, 2016
Titus: Ex. Putting up a set of nuclear missiles next to the FL monument that refs the Cold War #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
ICYMI: I'm creating a #RadicalPublicHistory listserv, get in touch if you're interested! @ncph #ncph2016–perhaps of interest to #s69?
— Dr. Lyra D. Monteiro (she/zie) is not leaving. (@intersectionist) March 19, 2016
.@katie_stringer what does it say that most monuments were constructed in the 1890s-1900s alongside Jim Crow? #s69 #ncph2016
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
Confirmation that the language of Public Historians is a poor substitute for meeting communities where they are. #s69 #ncph2016
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 19, 2016
#s69 #ncph2016 this is the kind of context we need to provide. But getting people to listen and understand might very well be impossible.
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) March 19, 2016
What I want to better understand is how I can best serve communities struggling w/what to do w/Confed iconography #s69 #ncph2016
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/kcrowe/status/711698626171371520
Fascinating to read tweets from #ncph2016 #s69. Must have been a lively session. Always interested to see who's ignored.
— Brooks D. Simpson (@BrooksDSimpson) March 19, 2016
Sometimes it appears that some public historians have just discovered the Confederate heritage debate. #ncph2016 #s69 Where have you been?
— Brooks D. Simpson (@BrooksDSimpson) March 19, 2016
@BrooksDSimpson Doing the work. #s69 #ncph2016
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/TheFootnoter/status/711301919776460800
Lesson for public historians from #ncph2016 #s69: deal with the public. In this case, publics. Some do (NPS), some don't.
— Brooks D. Simpson (@BrooksDSimpson) March 19, 2016
If public (or any) historians talk only to each other, don't be surprised at resulting ineffectiveness. #ncph2016 #s69 It's a problem.
— Brooks D. Simpson (@BrooksDSimpson) March 19, 2016
@BrooksDSimpson @k10death not 100%! We do have some sessions that include community members. But yeah, #s69 was disappointing.
— Michelle (@MichelleAnt41) March 20, 2016
@michelle031580 @k10death So I gather.
— Brooks D. Simpson (@BrooksDSimpson) March 20, 2016
@k10death @ncph I've been engaged in these debates for years with the stakeholders. Maybe folks need to check me out. #ncph2016 #s69
— Brooks D. Simpson (@BrooksDSimpson) March 19, 2016
@artstuffmatters @collegeart Thanks. Start here: https://t.co/XgbY3juz8Z. I've been at this for some time: https://t.co/Qdx0eOI5xj
— Brooks D. Simpson (@BrooksDSimpson) March 20, 2016
Half glad I missed that session/half pissed I wasn't there. But I think my MTSU peeps & others held it down. Thank you. #s69 #ncph2016
— Sarah (@SarahCalise) March 19, 2016
#NCPH2016 #s69 tweets reinforce my belief that CSA monuments debate has remarkably little to do with history
— Michael L (@mlynch5396) March 19, 2016
@dvhunter Will, Katie, and I are enjoying these #s69 tweets from afar. #academicbloodbath ?
— Hope J. Shannon (@HistorianHope) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/JeffreyLLauck/status/711306210310549504
http://twitter.com/elipousson/status/711375667653431296
http://twitter.com/JeffreyLLauck/status/711375877972561920
http://twitter.com/JeffreyLLauck/status/711379479613018112
http://twitter.com/JeffreyLLauck/status/711380840945549314
http://twitter.com/ModupeLabode/status/711314068439752704
http://twitter.com/ModupeLabode/status/711316719827087364
So after a long week at the #ncph2016 registration desk, I prop up my feet and log on to Twitter. What went down at #s69?
— Nicholas K. Johnson (@Tchoupitoulas89) March 19, 2016
Thanks to panelists and audience at #s69 #ncph2016 Helped to clarify my thinking even more. Blog post pending. https://t.co/ljMmfaiUXZ
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/BetterGuyX/status/711310799277584384
So much this #s69 #ncph2016 https://t.co/0CfzN7SErt
— Will Stoutamire (@wstoutamire) March 19, 2016
http://twitter.com/Behristotle/status/711312553297756162
http://twitter.com/life_of_sources/status/711312759959494656
http://twitter.com/life_of_sources/status/710438190142910464
http://twitter.com/blue_gojira/status/711316377123086337
http://twitter.com/elizabethcatte/status/711349708397125632
http://twitter.com/anichellemitch/status/711319069484457988
http://twitter.com/lwalterscooper/status/711328184596373504
http://twitter.com/life_of_sources/status/711376337890574341
Having great discussions post #s69 at the hotel restaurant. So many good ideas floating across the table. #ncph2016 continues!
— Will Stoutamire (@wstoutamire) March 19, 2016
#ncph2016 and #s69 have inspired me to up my Twitter game
— Greg Waters (@Like_Waters) March 20, 2016
This is why the #s69 #ncph2016 debate is so pressing. It's time for the confederate monuments & flags to be museumed https://t.co/9rtgO82RpG
— P. Coleman (@PhoebeColeman) March 20, 2016
Protester wearing KKK-style hood kicked and punched at Trump rally | WATCH: https://t.co/AsCEiWHo0x pic.twitter.com/LFpQc97kMq
— The Hill (@thehill) March 20, 2016
Has #s69 been storified? @ncph2016
— Denise D. Meringolo (@DDMeringolo) March 20, 2016
@wstoutamire @wstoutamire there's always rope and a few strong backs #s69 pic.twitter.com/rQv4ObHMkX
— The Descendant (@Their_Child) March 20, 2016
Wish I made it to the #ncph2016 #ConfederateMonuments session #s69
Our study on Baltimore 👉🏽 https://t.co/YIY2DN9t2J pic.twitter.com/yUzrEYjCDB— Eli Pousson 🚮🚲👋🏼 (@elipousson) March 20, 2016
http://twitter.com/life_of_sources/status/711519626115555328
http://twitter.com/CuppaCourtney/status/711382217616789504
More Talk About Confederate Monuments https://t.co/KuQIOya986 #ncph2016 #s69 #CivilWarMemory #PublicHistory
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 20, 2016
After reading #ncph2016 #s69 tweets, I'm totally convinced there's no excuse for Confederate monuments to remain part of the landscape
— Susan Philpott (@Philpo1Susan) March 20, 2016
Finally, I’d like to give praise to Jill Titus’s talk at #s69, which I think got lost in the tweetstorm chaos of that session. #NCPH2016
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 20, 2016
.@JillOglineTitus demonstrated importance of location for contextualizing Confederate icons. https://t.co/JMO1VHBoOo #NCPH2016 #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 20, 2016
Think Titus’s talk got lost on Twitter as many of us tried to make sense of earlier talks. @abbygateau covered her thoughts. #s69 #NCPH2016
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 20, 2016
Great commentary on #s69 #ncph2016, based on the Twitter response https://t.co/jW3Uc0XTc4
— Dr. Lyra D. Monteiro (she/zie) is not leaving. (@intersectionist) March 20, 2016
Here’s @KevinLevin’s takeaways from #s69 at #NCPH2016: https://t.co/YeZESNiNiY
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 20, 2016
Why no one is listening to what public historians have to say about Confederate monuments https://t.co/KuQIOya986 #ncph2016 #s69
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 20, 2016
http://twitter.com/artstuffmatters/status/711561919061217283
http://twitter.com/artstuffmatters/status/711563491421921280
http://twitter.com/artstuffmatters/status/711564934757355520
http://twitter.com/artstuffmatters/status/711566737184006144
http://twitter.com/artstuffmatters/status/711568109996544001
http://twitter.com/artstuffmatters/status/711572262261035013
We need 2 consider Herstory too. #mustread "@NickSacco55: Here’s @KevinLevin’s takeaways from #s69 at #NCPH2016: https://t.co/oz20A6P1GD…"
— Erin Bernard (@erincbernard) March 20, 2016
http://twitter.com/camachov_m/status/711578970584551424
#NCPH2016: As much about Challenging the Exclusive Public Historian as much as it was Challenging the Exclusive Past https://t.co/0fE4bmb5HF
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 21, 2016
Thoughtful post from @NickSacco55 on his experience at #ncph2016 and the panel on Confederate monuments #s69 https://t.co/axDP0DizMk
— Kevin M. Levin–Historian, Teacher, Public Speaker (@KevinLevin) March 21, 2016
Lots of truth and questions here in @NickSacco55's post #ncph2016 blog post https://t.co/ofozOyH23B
— kristen baldwin deathridge (@k10death) March 21, 2016
As usual, I nod along as I read @NickSacco55 's reflection on #ncph2016: https://t.co/G8dimUnCFV
— Devin V. Hunter (@dvhunter) March 21, 2016
Just reading thru tweets re confed monuments from #s69 #ncph2016. very excited abt new gen of public historians on the back channel. #newday
— Jon Voss (@jonvoss) March 20, 2016
http://twitter.com/anichellemitch/status/711947041815928833
This was definitely one of most important panels at #ncph2016–& one of smallest audiences. Necessary for #s69 convo https://t.co/VFjAIFkwWt
— Dr. Lyra D. Monteiro (she/zie) is not leaving. (@intersectionist) March 21, 2016
Many thanks to our Diversity Task Force for conducting the #HistoryinMyImage tweet chat at #ncph2016! https://t.co/qjQZMEiUTi
— NCPH (@ncph) March 22, 2016
#HistoryInMyImage Storify from March 17, 2016, #ncph2016 https://t.co/vOhwyC1tUX
— Brian Joyner (@BetterGuyX) March 22, 2016
http://twitter.com/lwalterscooper/status/711937258266435584
http://twitter.com/lwalterscooper/status/711937813311332352
http://twitter.com/lwalterscooper/status/711938589756690433
http://twitter.com/lwalterscooper/status/711939178712461312
Absolutely–as someone noted already, all the panelists were white. Big oversight/blindspot of organizer #ncph2016 https://t.co/seOsRarUGq
— Dr. Lyra D. Monteiro (she/zie) is not leaving. (@intersectionist) March 21, 2016
@lwalterscooper for me part of the reason that session was such a shock is bc I spent much of the rest of #ncph2016 talking about this 1/2
— kristen baldwin deathridge (@k10death) March 21, 2016
@lwalterscooper and most of the public historians around me practice the "listen and help communities" version of pubhist #ncph2016 2/2
— kristen baldwin deathridge (@k10death) March 21, 2016
http://twitter.com/anichellemitch/status/711980841061068800
@lwalterscooper Diversifying the panel would have been a good starting-point, sounds like! #ncph2016 #s69
— cathystanton (@cathystanton) March 21, 2016
http://twitter.com/RealConductor_X/status/711765824592162816
http://twitter.com/PubHistPhD/status/711924500338610177
The Storify of #S69 by @RealConductorX is fabulous. #ncph2016 https://t.co/fPmwAYjAFC
— Denise D. Meringolo (@DDMeringolo) March 21, 2016
Never too early to think about next year's meeting! Something you hoped for but didn't see at #ncph2016? Submit! https://t.co/QBdOUVtKVz
— NCPH New Pro & Student (@NCPH_NPstudent) March 21, 2016
Can #s1 of #ncph2017 be a continuation of #s69 at #ncph2016? But perhaps with additional voices that were underrepresented in Baltimore?
— Greg Waters (@Like_Waters) March 21, 2016
For those interested in continuing the convo from #ncph2016 #s69, check out the upcoming webinar from @AASLH https://t.co/V9qXOrSMyo
— Ashley B. Claybrooks (@NicNat_artifakz) March 21, 2016
#ncph2016 #s69 ain't done yet! @historizen weighs in with a smart and thoughtful post today.
https://t.co/OFXNpP21g5— cathystanton (@cathystanton) March 22, 2016
http://twitter.com/historizen/status/712386751289905152
http://twitter.com/RealConductor_X/status/712681023524352000
This has been one hell of a way to end #NCPH2016. #s69
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) March 19, 2016
After Storify announced they were discontinuing their services in 2018, NCPH preserved these Storifies on our website.