More Than a Job: Challenges in Developing & Maintaining a Public History Career
Promo for #s37 #ncph2015: More than a job. Come talk with us on Friday! fab co-panelist @NicBelleDeRise made this https://t.co/ikdDktyPu4
— kristen baldwin deathridge (@k10death) April 14, 2015
The participants are arriving early for #ncph2015 #s37 Come join them! pic.twitter.com/Aq7wJDC3HS
— Paul Zielinski (@PaulZski) April 17, 2015
#s37 just kicked off with a little Dolly #9to5 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Challenges for public historians working in the academy: You might be the only PH at your institution. #s37 #ncph2015
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
Many newly minted public historians walk into jobs where they are alone & have maybe 1 PH colleague. Rude awakening. #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
What do you do when you are the only public historian on your staff? Diff than having cohort and mentors in grad school. #s37 #ncph2015
— Abby Curtin Teare (@Abby_Teare) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/npdecicco/status/589135739264364544
@k10death discussing academic challenges at small programs, including resources and support #s37 #ncph2015
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
Challenge: being at an institution that wants to build its PH program but doesn't want to change. #s37 #ncph2015 #morethanajob
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
@alimab: How do you maintain your enthusiasm for PH when your dept thinks hiring you solved their problem? #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
@alimab discussing bring excitement for change to a department that doesn't want too, especially when you want tenure #s37 #ncph2015
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
Challenge: Doing it all, working all the time. Reading, writing, publishing, recruiting, bldg program, teaching, etc. #s37 #ncph2015
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
change d/n come easily in academia or elsewhere. How to keep excitement in your work when experiencing resistance? #s37 #ncph2015
— Abby Curtin Teare (@Abby_Teare) April 17, 2015
"How do you get more hours in the day?" #s37 #ncph2015
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
Working in a nonprofit: Be prepared and excited to learn and grow in your job. #s37 #ncph2015
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
Chumard: Be adaptable. Be prepared to learn and grow in your job on response to new ideas and audience needs #s37 #ncph2015
— Abby Curtin Teare (@Abby_Teare) April 17, 2015
#ncph2015 #s37 pic.twitter.com/csrhfLCzWF
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
Learning how to message- making complicated histories accessible & valuable for diverse audicences. #s37 #ncph2015
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/npdecicco/status/589137998568103937
Being a good PH grad student doesn't always equate to being a good public historian IRL #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Pachucki: relationship building is key and not necessarily taught in grad school. #s37 #ncph2015
— Abby Curtin Teare (@Abby_Teare) April 17, 2015
Key skills needed for being a good public historian: adaptability & relationship-building #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/W_illiford/status/589138409312165888
Need advocacy on behalf of our organization within and without #ncph2015 #s37
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Zielinski: One of our publics is the ppl we work with who come from a non pub hist background. #s37 #ncph2015
— Abby Curtin Teare (@Abby_Teare) April 17, 2015
Speaker: your public includes those you work with #s37 #ncph2015
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
Seems much PH work involves advocating–w/in the academy & other institutions w/multiple demands/limited resources #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Discussion of that ominous job category: "Other duties as assigned" #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/BartDelcamp/status/589139589996118016
https://twitter.com/npdecicco/status/589139949099884545
For profit speaker: you need networking and relationship skills #ncph2015 #s37
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
Private-sector public historian works at Wells Fargo must learn to interact with ppl w/$$$. I wouldn't know where to start! #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Consistent theme of #s37 is the need to disseminate and advocate for historical thinking among co-workers & patrons. #NCPH2015
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) April 17, 2015
Advertising producer: history is equity. Must balance a multitude of high-dollar voices #s37 #ncph2015
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Bunting: Being a public historian involves navigating many voices and pts of view. How do you synthesize all of them? #s37 #ncph2015
— Abby Curtin Teare (@Abby_Teare) April 17, 2015
Networking and relationships matter. #s37 #ncph2015
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
Even for-profit history world has cashflow problems. #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Did the audience come with any specific purposes? I WANT A JOB #s37 #ncph2015
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Grad students all want more history classes, but we need skillz–management & business classes #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/npdecicco/status/589141920640856064
You can learn it on the job; that doesn't make you an imposter. #realtalk #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
You CAN learn it on the job and you WILL. Don't feel like a fraud in your job! #s37 #ncph2015
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Chumard: normal to feel like a fraud in your job, esp when you don't have very much experience. Glad I'm not the only one! #s37 #ncph2015
— Abby Curtin Teare (@Abby_Teare) April 17, 2015
.@k10death: Public history students don't want to take business classes #s37 #ncph2015
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/W_illiford/status/589142380848218113
Being able and willing to learn on the job and step outside of their comfort zones #s37 #ncph2015
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
@jp5morin: PH students are adaptable in ways that traditional history students aren't, but we need pub policy exp/training #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Public policy and public administration are HUGE deficiencies in public history education according to gov't historian #ncph2015 #s37
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Historian working in public sector says public administration, public policy missing from PH education. #s37 #ncph2015 #morethanajob
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
@jp5morin: 25% of Canadian govt employees have history degrees. We need more than history, need public admin/policy #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Canadian gov't has 100,000 history majors in its employ. Governments love historians and esp. Public Historians #ncph2015 #s37
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Well, I'd say the structure of most grad programs sets up barriers towards interdisciplinary classes #ncph2015 #s37 https://t.co/kFgquKfqNS
— Dr. Andrea Burns (@HistoryAndrea) April 17, 2015
Aud: Business/policy classes can be intimidating, but PHs should be good at being uncomfortable & adapting #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Public Historians: have to be first-rate historians, but more! #NCPH2015 #s37
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Aud: Suggests that we rethink curricula to best prepare students for an intense variety of needs & still be good historians #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/npdecicco/status/589144762172706816
Where do you imagine yourself 10 yrs from now? Who has that job? What kind of credentials do they have? –NYU PH prof #s37 #ncph2015
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
Internships critical in PH education #ncph2015 #s37
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Parallel convos in #s37 & #s39 #ncph2015 https://t.co/LyUD9GVvnR
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Good to think about regardless of your career, but the world changes so fast, how can you know that? #s37 #ncph2015
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
Successful public historians embrace new ideas and technologies. #ncph2015 #s37
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Not all public history programs can cover everything. #ncph2015 #s37
— Casey Gymrek (@CaseyGymrek) April 17, 2015
Multiple generations of PH happening in #s37–the prof who started the program, the one who runs it now, & students #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Great comment: look who is holding the job you want and what their credentials are #ncph2015 #s37
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/brevehughes/status/589145635900784640
Go to staff meetings. Read grant proposals. Go beyond internship projects, get those administrative skills. #ncph2015 #s37
— Casey Gymrek (@CaseyGymrek) April 17, 2015
Advocacy & communication will always be needed. –current director of NYU PH program #s37 #ncph2015
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
@k10death suggest http://t.co/Z4vd6t1JEb for learning new digital skills on the job #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/W_illiford/status/589145996359241728
Aud: Is continuing ed. part of your careers? Part of your planning? #ncph2015 #s37
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
Heard in #s37 #ncph2015 “@atf2882: #phnavigator is a guide to thriving in a public history programs”
— Mariam Williams (@missmariamw) April 17, 2015
Other skills we need: project mgmt, graphic design, public speaking, web content mgmt #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Technology, project management, and marketing big things the panel wants to learn #ncph2015 #s37
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/W_illiford/status/589146811987849216
Seems that the professionals on the panel take classes in specific skills that they aren't as able to develop on the fly #ncph2015 #s37
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
@alimab & @k10death : getting skills takes time, but so does negotiating the bureaucracy to implement them #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
.@abbygateau points out that basic education in non-historical vocabs can help us communicate and understand issues better #ncph2015 #s37
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
New skills set involves learning a new vocabulary. Get some baseline education so you can communicate more effectively. #ncph2015 #s37
— Casey Gymrek (@CaseyGymrek) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/npdecicco/status/589147227161030657
https://twitter.com/W_illiford/status/589147340096872449
re: new vocab, I'm going to be working on a glossary of DH terms for PHs for History@Work w/ @cathystanton . Help? #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Don't count out your campus career center #s37 #ncph2015
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/ChrisDavisFite/status/589147912480886784
Spontaneous applause for audience member who just got a job offer #solidarity #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Question: do career centers help PUblic Historians find a job? #ncph2015 #s37
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/brevehughes/status/589148467353755648
Alumni networks discussed at #s37. @JennyKalvaitis et al. plan to discuss creating an alumni network for @IUPUIPH after #NCPH2015.
— Nick Sacco (@NickSacco55) April 17, 2015
@k10death: Before you charge in changing everything, find out how the policy came about & why it was needed first #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Comment: we have to know how to communicate with people of different generations who use different tools #ncph2015 #s37
— Zach Hottel (@ZachHottel) April 17, 2015
@jp5morin Need to use the same tact & patience w/ colleagues you do w/communities #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
It's important to give colleagues room to come around to you w/dignity & not react emotionally to their emotions #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/BartDelcamp/status/589150646911295488
Present ideas, not demands. #ncph2015 #s37
— Casey Gymrek (@CaseyGymrek) April 17, 2015
Present change in a solution-oriented way–digitization can be scary, but everyone likes efficiency #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
Push for incremental change & encourage as much research on the process as possible. Institutions like proof. #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
@k10death: All the skills we use to build relationships w/communities can be used to improve communication w/in institutions #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/W_illiford/status/589152226100301825
Aud: Recommended resources for strategic planning? #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
@k10death: If you need support as a new professional, you need to find ways to be vulnerable #ncph2015 #s37
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/drpublichistory/status/589154250191667201
Make friendships. #cohortlove #s37 #ncph2015
— Evan Spencer (@EvanRSpencer) April 17, 2015
@bldg92 says learn how to write your ideas in 150 words, then 140 characters. #s37 #ncph2015
— Dr. Abigail R. Gautreau (@abbygateau) April 17, 2015
https://twitter.com/kclukacs/status/589157178973560832
Thanks again to participants and panelists on #s37 #morethanajob @NicBelleDeRise @PaulZski @alimab @BLDG92 & others not on Twitter #ncph2015
— kristen baldwin deathridge (@k10death) April 17, 2015
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